ChaosHacker
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Post by ChaosHacker on Apr 17, 2003 3:30:51 GMT
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Post by whoop on Apr 17, 2003 5:23:10 GMT
the M16 is much improved in the full version, as with the SKS.
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Post by ChaosHacker on Apr 17, 2003 6:12:26 GMT
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Post by M. O. on Apr 20, 2003 15:41:27 GMT
Well actually the wpns here aren´t SMGs.
Submachinegun and machinegun.
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Post by ChaosHacker on Apr 20, 2003 21:14:54 GMT
ummm omar these weapones are SMG,s and rifles like M16 is a rifle and ak47 pps41 pps43 are rifles. yet thompson us-m3 are SMG,s i know....i messed up but hey ppl ARE voting so WHO CARES...lol at least ur smart to notice that omar.  |
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Post by Vicious on Apr 20, 2003 21:56:02 GMT
the pps series are soviet machine guns...so is the thompson and m3...the others are classified as assult rifles...
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Post by M. O. on Apr 21, 2003 6:29:22 GMT
The USM-3 is a SMG, the PPS' are a litle mixture.
Machinegun / rifle whatever.
But it's confusing to call it machinegun since the "machineguns" are on heavy tripod stands like the old German MG42. There are also lighmachineguns LMGs like the russian PK or the American M60.
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Post by [TKC]Alpha on Apr 21, 2003 12:34:25 GMT
Guys....
SMG is a machine gun that shoots pistol rounds. Like the Thompson, H&K MP5, etc... They shoot 9mm and .45ACP.
A machine gun shoots rifle rounds. M16's, AK's etc. are Light Machine Guns, or assault rifles. They are light, portable, and are fed by means of a box magazine. M60, MG42, FN M249 Saw, are Machine Guns. Typically belt-fed, heavy, slower rate of fire. But they spray LOTS of lead!
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Post by M. O. on Apr 21, 2003 17:41:56 GMT
Well, maybe but,
the M60 and the FN-"SAW" is portable and a standard infantry-group wpn therefore LMG. The German MG42 requires two soldiers, one that aims and one that reloads then it's a MG (they are mostly static), modern variant is the US M-2 (not M-3 which is a SMG).
The m16 can be called machine gun yes, but thats not a proper name for it. And rifle is not a proper name either.
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Post by Killa Cam on Apr 21, 2003 18:22:36 GMT
gotta love the ak-47 but i at time prefer the thompson just cause it sounds different and less recoil
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Post by ZOldDude on Apr 21, 2003 22:40:59 GMT
ALPHA has to correct answere.....MACHINE GUNS use rifle rounds and SUB-MACHINE GUNS use pistol ammo.
The BAR in .50 was made as a RIFLE way back in WW1 to shoot holes in somthing new called a TANK....by WW2 that same round was used in Americas heavy machine gun.
It is also trying to be made illeagl by bone-heads (aka CONGRESS)under some bullsh*t about "snipper class" weapon (all tho from WW1 till this day no .50 has EVER been used in a crime).
(also note that the BAR is also made in .30 as in 30-06 (first) and the now more common .308)
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Post by [TKC]Alpha on Apr 21, 2003 23:29:42 GMT
Congress pfff  I read they wanna ban the .50BMG because it is an "anti-aircraft" round! They think terrorists will be able to shoot down planes with single shot big bores!  A .50 cal should be the least of their worries. But I am going to pick up a Barrett .50BMG asap just in case they decide to ban them. Love grandfather laws  |
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Post by ZOldDude on Apr 22, 2003 2:22:15 GMT
Well myself I dont think ANY firearm should sell for around $5,000......
By the way the latest NEWS from the maker of that firearm has told the L.A.P.D. that HE WILL NOT SELL NOR WILL HE SERVICE any of the firearems they have already bought from his company (one of the NEWS pcs I dug up for one of the radio programs topics one night).
See....some people just will not support "Brown Shirts".
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Post by [TKC]Alpha on Apr 23, 2003 22:46:36 GMT
Yeah I read that letter some time ago also. Great letter. Its about time a gun manufacturer stands up to these idiots.
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Post by Vicious on Apr 23, 2003 23:44:22 GMT
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![[TKC]Alpha Avatar](http://www.angelfire.com/empire2/tkc/tkclogo.jpg)
I read they wanna ban the .50BMG because it is an "anti-aircraft" round! They think terrorists will be able to shoot down planes with single shot big bores! 
A .50 cal should be the least of their worries. But I am going to pick up a Barrett .50BMG asap just in case they decide to ban them. Love grandfather laws 
